The FSSP do provide conditional baptisms & confirmations. After attending their traditional catechism class, I had concerns about the validity of my baptism (done outside of the Church). Hence our Pastor conditionally baptized & confirmed me.
The priest who discovered his baptism was invalid, Fr. Matthew Hood, was in the Detroit Archdiocese. I live in the Kalamazoo Diocese a few hours away. It was very shocking.
I think historically the position of Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society in general was considerably more sceptical of validity than you suggest, Kennedy.
Lefebvre's reservations were profound enough to make "valid confirmations" one of the stated reasons for the 1988 consecrations. His letter to Fr Pivert in 1988 is also eye-opening. The historical practice of the SSPX, at least in England and other countries, has been to encourage the faithful to be conditionally confirmed. Several of my friends were sought out by the priests when it was confirmation time and told to get it done.
The first part of a study into his approach to sacramental matters is below.
Yes, that’s what I said in the video, that historically there was a lot of reason to be skeptical, and that in some cases there is not. And I mentioned in the video that many when they can’t be certain of how it was done do in fact seek out conditional confirmation. Thanks to Lefebvre’s heroic efforts, much of the veritable insanity from the 70s and 80s is no longer common. My friend attended a parish in the early 90s where they used pumpernickel bread and some invalid wine and the parish doubled as a synagogue. That sort of thing was extremely common then, but thankfully the worst abuses are not so common today. Granted there a zillion reasons to oppose the NO etc, as I spent about 300 pages doing in my recent book, but I also acknowledge that the situation is different today than it was at the worst time, and that is thanks to the efforts of Lefebvre et al as they forced the prelates to reconcile with the anarchy afoot.
The FSSP do provide conditional baptisms & confirmations. After attending their traditional catechism class, I had concerns about the validity of my baptism (done outside of the Church). Hence our Pastor conditionally baptized & confirmed me.
Thank you, good to know
The priest who discovered his baptism was invalid, Fr. Matthew Hood, was in the Detroit Archdiocese. I live in the Kalamazoo Diocese a few hours away. It was very shocking.
I think historically the position of Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society in general was considerably more sceptical of validity than you suggest, Kennedy.
Lefebvre's reservations were profound enough to make "valid confirmations" one of the stated reasons for the 1988 consecrations. His letter to Fr Pivert in 1988 is also eye-opening. The historical practice of the SSPX, at least in England and other countries, has been to encourage the faithful to be conditionally confirmed. Several of my friends were sought out by the priests when it was confirmation time and told to get it done.
The first part of a study into his approach to sacramental matters is below.
https://www.wmreview.org/p/lefebvre-confirmations
Yes, that’s what I said in the video, that historically there was a lot of reason to be skeptical, and that in some cases there is not. And I mentioned in the video that many when they can’t be certain of how it was done do in fact seek out conditional confirmation. Thanks to Lefebvre’s heroic efforts, much of the veritable insanity from the 70s and 80s is no longer common. My friend attended a parish in the early 90s where they used pumpernickel bread and some invalid wine and the parish doubled as a synagogue. That sort of thing was extremely common then, but thankfully the worst abuses are not so common today. Granted there a zillion reasons to oppose the NO etc, as I spent about 300 pages doing in my recent book, but I also acknowledge that the situation is different today than it was at the worst time, and that is thanks to the efforts of Lefebvre et al as they forced the prelates to reconcile with the anarchy afoot.