I wonder if this is part of the reason Bishop Barron is so interested in Jordan Peterson. The Nouvelle Theologie writers and thinkers all had a great reverence to Teillhard and cited him often. Bishop Barron is of course of the New Theology himself as he happily proclaims that they, “won the day at Vatican II!”. Perhaps Barron and Peterson together is like putting two Teillhardians together, they maybe have similar beliefs but express them differently because of their different fields (theology vs psychology).
So, I am struggling with knowing whether or not Jordan peterson is propagating a belief system that is threatening to the truth or on a faith journey. His wife must believe the actual truth as a professing Catholic
I never really listened to Peterson before. I knew of him and thought some of the short clips that came out were pretty good. I did find it strange when Daily Wire hired him for biblical analysis as an atheist considering the heads are believing Jews.
It wasn’t until Matt Fradd interviewed him that I really got to hear him. It was then that I realized he was so smart it made him stupid. He’s really good at talking and sounding profound and he really says nothing. The fact that he can’t say “I don’t know” was driving me crazy. It’s like it’s a sign of weakness which is something I’ve noticed atheists seem to think. Although, I’m going to calling them gnostics from now on as it seems to be more accurate.
Kennedy, nailed it. The hurdle for Paterson is twofold: incredulity and human respect.
In his recent debate with Dawkins on being pressed on the Virgin birth, he has no place to go to to answer it because he is unwilling to take the final step: abandonment to faith, or as JRRT puts it: suspending disbelief.
In his Western Analytical Jungian grounding, he finds in nigh on possible to believe without actual evidence, rather, he tries to build a rampart of psychological, literary, and metaphysical layering to combat Dawkins' atomistic determinism.
Unlike his wife, he seems to be hamstrung by the burden if human respect as if this leap of faith will erode his professional standing.
You're such a good teacher, Kennedy. I really appreciate it.
I've been puzzled by Jordan Peterson for a long time. When I first encountered him, I was impressed by some of his psychological insights, and then that faded as I heard him talk more about religion, christian faith, and Catholicism specifically. I realized he thought it was all some made-up mythology that all us dummies had fallen for.
I began to wonder why such a supposedly smart person was constantly trying to reinvent the wheel. He apparently doesn't know that at the top of this hill of revelation he's climbing he's going to meet the Catholic theologians who've been there and done that (centuries ago, millennia even).
How could he be so lackluster and lazy as to apparently not have read the church Fathers, the Doctors of the church, and/or any of the teaching documents from Popes that comprise part of the Magisterium. The knowledge he seeks is all there for the taking. But even that won't bring him true faith. Why?
His ego. He frequently presents himself, tearfully even, as a very humble learner on a journey to truth. That's absolutely false. Like Pilot, the Truth stands before him, and he is blind to it.
His refusal (yes, refusal) to recognize Truth and his egocentric inability to make a faith journey was finally made so clear to me by the reports that his wife made the soul-saving decision to enter the Catholic church (we assume, after RCIA), and he did not go on that journey with her. That's a huge decision involving a parting of ways between a husband and wife. I imagine there were many discussions between them about her burgeoning faith, a very personal thing to have happen, and he rejected it . . . and her.
That shows me that he suffers a total lack of humility. He cannot submit to Magisterial teaching. He's bound and determined to invent mythologies himself. His love for seeing everything thru an evolutionary lens is diabolical.
Thus, having gone thru this journey of assessing Jordan as a possible teacher, I reject him completely on any subject.
I continue my search for faithful, intelligent, well-spoken Catholic teachers/theologians. That's how I found you, Kennedy. I thank the Holy Ghost for giving you this charism, and I thank you for all your hard work. Well done.
I would not necessarily say he sees it through Evolution, it is more a Progressive Judeo-Masonic language which created the evolution of theology. He talks more like the modern Rabbi's that speak that paradox is the only way to see things, no right or wrong, because then it is "limiting" God. It is Gnostic. There are clearly things that seem occult and magick that he has been involved in, with Judeo rituals and practices, like possibly dressing in drag. He needs prayer, but his writings and speeches should be anathama. For he is introducing Judeo thought into Christianity, even with Jonathan. Dr.Haugen's talk with Aiden, really hints on this.
I wonder if this is part of the reason Bishop Barron is so interested in Jordan Peterson. The Nouvelle Theologie writers and thinkers all had a great reverence to Teillhard and cited him often. Bishop Barron is of course of the New Theology himself as he happily proclaims that they, “won the day at Vatican II!”. Perhaps Barron and Peterson together is like putting two Teillhardians together, they maybe have similar beliefs but express them differently because of their different fields (theology vs psychology).
So, I am struggling with knowing whether or not Jordan peterson is propagating a belief system that is threatening to the truth or on a faith journey. His wife must believe the actual truth as a professing Catholic
I thought was on a journey to the Catholic church. His wife just converted
I never really listened to Peterson before. I knew of him and thought some of the short clips that came out were pretty good. I did find it strange when Daily Wire hired him for biblical analysis as an atheist considering the heads are believing Jews.
It wasn’t until Matt Fradd interviewed him that I really got to hear him. It was then that I realized he was so smart it made him stupid. He’s really good at talking and sounding profound and he really says nothing. The fact that he can’t say “I don’t know” was driving me crazy. It’s like it’s a sign of weakness which is something I’ve noticed atheists seem to think. Although, I’m going to calling them gnostics from now on as it seems to be more accurate.
Kennedy, nailed it. The hurdle for Paterson is twofold: incredulity and human respect.
In his recent debate with Dawkins on being pressed on the Virgin birth, he has no place to go to to answer it because he is unwilling to take the final step: abandonment to faith, or as JRRT puts it: suspending disbelief.
In his Western Analytical Jungian grounding, he finds in nigh on possible to believe without actual evidence, rather, he tries to build a rampart of psychological, literary, and metaphysical layering to combat Dawkins' atomistic determinism.
Unlike his wife, he seems to be hamstrung by the burden if human respect as if this leap of faith will erode his professional standing.
May Christ humble him and bring him to the faith.
You're such a good teacher, Kennedy. I really appreciate it.
I've been puzzled by Jordan Peterson for a long time. When I first encountered him, I was impressed by some of his psychological insights, and then that faded as I heard him talk more about religion, christian faith, and Catholicism specifically. I realized he thought it was all some made-up mythology that all us dummies had fallen for.
I began to wonder why such a supposedly smart person was constantly trying to reinvent the wheel. He apparently doesn't know that at the top of this hill of revelation he's climbing he's going to meet the Catholic theologians who've been there and done that (centuries ago, millennia even).
How could he be so lackluster and lazy as to apparently not have read the church Fathers, the Doctors of the church, and/or any of the teaching documents from Popes that comprise part of the Magisterium. The knowledge he seeks is all there for the taking. But even that won't bring him true faith. Why?
His ego. He frequently presents himself, tearfully even, as a very humble learner on a journey to truth. That's absolutely false. Like Pilot, the Truth stands before him, and he is blind to it.
His refusal (yes, refusal) to recognize Truth and his egocentric inability to make a faith journey was finally made so clear to me by the reports that his wife made the soul-saving decision to enter the Catholic church (we assume, after RCIA), and he did not go on that journey with her. That's a huge decision involving a parting of ways between a husband and wife. I imagine there were many discussions between them about her burgeoning faith, a very personal thing to have happen, and he rejected it . . . and her.
That shows me that he suffers a total lack of humility. He cannot submit to Magisterial teaching. He's bound and determined to invent mythologies himself. His love for seeing everything thru an evolutionary lens is diabolical.
Thus, having gone thru this journey of assessing Jordan as a possible teacher, I reject him completely on any subject.
I continue my search for faithful, intelligent, well-spoken Catholic teachers/theologians. That's how I found you, Kennedy. I thank the Holy Ghost for giving you this charism, and I thank you for all your hard work. Well done.
I would not necessarily say he sees it through Evolution, it is more a Progressive Judeo-Masonic language which created the evolution of theology. He talks more like the modern Rabbi's that speak that paradox is the only way to see things, no right or wrong, because then it is "limiting" God. It is Gnostic. There are clearly things that seem occult and magick that he has been involved in, with Judeo rituals and practices, like possibly dressing in drag. He needs prayer, but his writings and speeches should be anathama. For he is introducing Judeo thought into Christianity, even with Jonathan. Dr.Haugen's talk with Aiden, really hints on this.
https://youtu.be/wwHZcin58YM?si=ZqXVrbabk_66tjoS
Why would anyone think that Jordan Peterson is Catholic? Am I missing something? Btw,
De Chardin was demonized. He described the entry of the entity into his soul in his writing.
My apologies. The content is disturbing but I will listen to more